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	<title>Comments for IC System Collection Suit</title>
	
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	<description>I sued and they STILL call me!</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on IC System collector Amanda PROVIDES SSN instead of requesting it for verification by William Darnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Darnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have come on hard times and have lost 60% of my income. I had great credit and have a good rate fixed mortgage. I have fallen behind with Washington Mutual and am being harrassed by IC systems. I just filed a cease and desist letter, and have a cll long with 150 calls on it. I don't play the game over the phone. I am just as upset with WAMU for associating themself with this bunch of dirt bags. I said i would not settle without a signed copy of the settlement, and the imbecile on the other end seemed confused. I then told them to have WAMU call about a settlement. They haven't called just the cretins from iC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have come on hard times and have lost 60% of my income. I had great credit and have a good rate fixed mortgage. I have fallen behind with Washington Mutual and am being harrassed by IC systems. I just filed a cease and desist letter, and have a cll long with 150 calls on it. I don&#8217;t play the game over the phone. I am just as upset with WAMU for associating themself with this bunch of dirt bags. I said i would not settle without a signed copy of the settlement, and the imbecile on the other end seemed confused. I then told them to have WAMU call about a settlement. They haven&#8217;t called just the cretins from iC.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System collector Amanda PROVIDES SSN instead of requesting it for verification by Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure how it happened but once I mentioned to IC system about payments and possibly settlement, my account went back to WaMu the next day. Well at least it seemed.  I did end up settling the account for a lot less than what I owed just to get rid of them and IC System.  I really do commend you Christine on your hard work and determination.  I kept track of each $1K offense and I should have done the same as yourself.  It is just appalling the way IC System treats society like they are all scum.  Forget the fact hard times come by all of us by now fault of our own and we, as society, try to get throught these difficult times as best as possible.  One could only hope that what comes around goes around in their situation. They need to have a chance on our end just to see what we have to deal with not only with day to day life but also how to make it by day to day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure how it happened but once I mentioned to IC system about payments and possibly settlement, my account went back to WaMu the next day. Well at least it seemed.  I did end up settling the account for a lot less than what I owed just to get rid of them and IC System.  I really do commend you Christine on your hard work and determination.  I kept track of each $1K offense and I should have done the same as yourself.  It is just appalling the way IC System treats society like they are all scum.  Forget the fact hard times come by all of us by now fault of our own and we, as society, try to get throught these difficult times as best as possible.  One could only hope that what comes around goes around in their situation. They need to have a chance on our end just to see what we have to deal with not only with day to day life but also how to make it by day to day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System collector Amanda PROVIDES SSN instead of requesting it for verification by Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I would like to commend you for taking action where as most who should dont. Since I myself have been laid off and my saving are dwindling away I sure I will be getting some of these phone call soon. I would be will donting my time to you for research if that would help since thats all i could offer you at this time. I wanted to share my girl friends recent incounter with a collection agency. They called collecting for Chase bank and the first calls where to say the lest very threatening literally. They said they could repose her belongings, garnish her wages and ofcorse sue her. This debt was only 2 months late for the very first time ever. They then tried to get her to have her family pay and she being her and wanting to pay but just cant atm agreed to ask her dad on the phone for the money. They put her on a 3 way call and the agent then tried to threaten her father into paying the bill. He of course couldn't and the agent became very abusive him, all the while im listen to all this on the other line. After that a few days late her ex-husban's father was called by this agency and get this demanded he pay this debt for her decussing in detail the matter and demanding an over the phone payment or they would sue rebekah. How they got his number is beyond me but they still are calling 2 times a day at 8:30am and 7:30pm. I'll ask rebekah what the name of the agency was as im not sure at moment and I beleive the debt has changed hands since then. Also around 2002 she tried to use a debt consolidation company they kept pounding a credit card of hers the one that defaulted for over $300.00 on the premise of lowering her interest rates on her cards. They did nothing at all. She filled the forms they sent her and never heard from them again all the while they where taking money from her credit card.
Good luck on your suite and if we can collect enough evidence we will taking them to court as well however we didnt get anything on recording so im not sure we will have any recorse. I wish I had been aware of this site before all this happened for it has insired me to get off my ass and do something. I'm sick and tired of being takin advantage of by big business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I would like to commend you for taking action where as most who should dont. Since I myself have been laid off and my saving are dwindling away I sure I will be getting some of these phone call soon. I would be will donting my time to you for research if that would help since thats all i could offer you at this time. I wanted to share my girl friends recent incounter with a collection agency. They called collecting for Chase bank and the first calls where to say the lest very threatening literally. They said they could repose her belongings, garnish her wages and ofcorse sue her. This debt was only 2 months late for the very first time ever. They then tried to get her to have her family pay and she being her and wanting to pay but just cant atm agreed to ask her dad on the phone for the money. They put her on a 3 way call and the agent then tried to threaten her father into paying the bill. He of course couldn&#8217;t and the agent became very abusive him, all the while im listen to all this on the other line. After that a few days late her ex-husban&#8217;s father was called by this agency and get this demanded he pay this debt for her decussing in detail the matter and demanding an over the phone payment or they would sue rebekah. How they got his number is beyond me but they still are calling 2 times a day at 8:30am and 7:30pm. I&#8217;ll ask rebekah what the name of the agency was as im not sure at moment and I beleive the debt has changed hands since then. Also around 2002 she tried to use a debt consolidation company they kept pounding a credit card of hers the one that defaulted for over $300.00 on the premise of lowering her interest rates on her cards. They did nothing at all. She filled the forms they sent her and never heard from them again all the while they where taking money from her credit card.<br />
Good luck on your suite and if we can collect enough evidence we will taking them to court as well however we didnt get anything on recording so im not sure we will have any recorse. I wish I had been aware of this site before all this happened for it has insired me to get off my ass and do something. I&#8217;m sick and tired of being takin advantage of by big business.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System numbers: 410-968-7953 — 651-204-1374 — 800-561-5695 —  866-903-1001 by Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had a strange encounter with these folks.  I, too, get hang up calls from them.  When I called back, I told the gal who answered for IC Systems that I get calls on my switchboard all day long from her company.  I told her that if she could tell me, from my company's phone #, who they were trying to reach, I would give her that person's direct line.  Sure enough, she typed in my company's main # and gave me the name of one of our employees.  I then gave her one of our very seldom used fax #s instead of his direct line and she confirmed she changed it in the system.  She never took my name and I don't know if changing the # erased the original # they had, but I think this might slow them down for awhile, if not stop them completely.  I'm very surprised how smoothly it went, but, then again, she was under the impression that she was getting info to help her collect money, so she fell for it hook, line and sinker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a strange encounter with these folks.  I, too, get hang up calls from them.  When I called back, I told the gal who answered for IC Systems that I get calls on my switchboard all day long from her company.  I told her that if she could tell me, from my company&#8217;s phone #, who they were trying to reach, I would give her that person&#8217;s direct line.  Sure enough, she typed in my company&#8217;s main # and gave me the name of one of our employees.  I then gave her one of our very seldom used fax #s instead of his direct line and she confirmed she changed it in the system.  She never took my name and I don&#8217;t know if changing the # erased the original # they had, but I think this might slow them down for awhile, if not stop them completely.  I&#8217;m very surprised how smoothly it went, but, then again, she was under the impression that she was getting info to help her collect money, so she fell for it hook, line and sinker!</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Open Letter to WaMu and the collection calls and settlement offer by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>" I’ve even considered going to a credit counselor (they can get the interest down to 10%)."

That's the absolute WORST thing you could possibly do.  You'll ruin your credit AND you pay them!

I know that Chase got the deposit accounts, but don't know about the credit cards.  

I highly recommend that you take the 3.5 hours to watch &lt;b&gt;The Money Masters&lt;/b&gt; and some of the other documentaries at http://creditfactors.com/resistance/viewforum.php?f=2

Chase and Citi are the primary beneficiaries of the credit crisis.  

"In my opinion they are just as bad as the mob, the only difference is they are legal."

You have NO idea how right you are.  They've killed everybody who ever posed a serious threat. 

&lt;b&gt;Educate yourself and spend you money wisely.&lt;/b&gt;

You're hoping for change, well, we'll see change, but not for the benefit of the people.

Prepare for the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I’ve even considered going to a credit counselor (they can get the interest down to 10%).&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the absolute WORST thing you could possibly do.  You&#8217;ll ruin your credit AND you pay them!</p>
<p>I know that Chase got the deposit accounts, but don&#8217;t know about the credit cards.  </p>
<p>I highly recommend that you take the 3.5 hours to watch <b>The Money Masters</b> and some of the other documentaries at <a href="http://creditfactors.com/resistance/viewforum.php?f=2" rel="nofollow">http://creditfactors.com/resistance/viewforum.php?f=2</a></p>
<p>Chase and Citi are the primary beneficiaries of the credit crisis.  </p>
<p>&#8220;In my opinion they are just as bad as the mob, the only difference is they are legal.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have NO idea how right you are.  They&#8217;ve killed everybody who ever posed a serious threat. </p>
<p><b>Educate yourself and spend you money wisely.</b></p>
<p>You&#8217;re hoping for change, well, we&#8217;ll see change, but not for the benefit of the people.</p>
<p>Prepare for the worst.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Open Letter to WaMu and the collection calls and settlement offer by April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't look at like they went under, they were bailed out.  I believe that Chase Morgan bought them out.  I hope they are better to do busness with, once the take over is complete, probably another year from now.  It makes me sick that the corrupt banks are getting bailed out, and we're left hanging.  The mob has better interest rates then them.  I'm not ready to ruin my credit just to stick it to them to the A hole credit card companies (just not at that point yet).  I will continue to pay on time and try to have the balances transfered, I've even considered going to a credit councelor (they can get the interest down to 10%).  I think they are in consperacy with the card companies, why won't they lower the interest rates like that for a good customer?  I'm at a point were I don't know who to trust, but I want to get out of this mess.  It won't be long until I'm at the point were I can't pay them anymore, and I have to do something.  Expecially with Christmas around the corner, food expensive, gas is expensive, utilities have gone up and three small children (I know most of America is in the same boat as me).  I hope something changes soon, someones got to change the way that credit card companies are aloud to ruin lives.  In my opinion they are just as bad as the mob, the only difference is they are legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t look at like they went under, they were bailed out.  I believe that Chase Morgan bought them out.  I hope they are better to do busness with, once the take over is complete, probably another year from now.  It makes me sick that the corrupt banks are getting bailed out, and we&#8217;re left hanging.  The mob has better interest rates then them.  I&#8217;m not ready to ruin my credit just to stick it to them to the A hole credit card companies (just not at that point yet).  I will continue to pay on time and try to have the balances transfered, I&#8217;ve even considered going to a credit councelor (they can get the interest down to 10%).  I think they are in consperacy with the card companies, why won&#8217;t they lower the interest rates like that for a good customer?  I&#8217;m at a point were I don&#8217;t know who to trust, but I want to get out of this mess.  It won&#8217;t be long until I&#8217;m at the point were I can&#8217;t pay them anymore, and I have to do something.  Expecially with Christmas around the corner, food expensive, gas is expensive, utilities have gone up and three small children (I know most of America is in the same boat as me).  I hope something changes soon, someones got to change the way that credit card companies are aloud to ruin lives.  In my opinion they are just as bad as the mob, the only difference is they are legal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System numbers: 410-968-7953 — 651-204-1374 — 800-561-5695 —  866-903-1001 by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm assuming by "hassling" you mean that they are calling you.

&lt;b&gt;Do you know that you have the LEGAL RIGHT to stop those calls?&lt;/b&gt;

There are two applicable provisions in the FDCPA.

I don't want them suing you for harassment and as you know, it's really easy for them to change email addresses.

Sending the request to STOP calling by email is much faster and cheaper than sending snail mail with delivery confirmation.

The letter just needs to contain your contact info, their account # if you have it and it could include the phone number you don't want called.  It depends on whether it is a work number or cell phone number or whether you don't want any calls including at home.

I should post a couple sample letters at http://newdebtcollectionlaw.info/, I'll try to make some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m assuming by &#8220;hassling&#8221; you mean that they are calling you.</p>
<p><b>Do you know that you have the LEGAL RIGHT to stop those calls?</b></p>
<p>There are two applicable provisions in the FDCPA.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want them suing you for harassment and as you know, it&#8217;s really easy for them to change email addresses.</p>
<p>Sending the request to STOP calling by email is much faster and cheaper than sending snail mail with delivery confirmation.</p>
<p>The letter just needs to contain your contact info, their account # if you have it and it could include the phone number you don&#8217;t want called.  It depends on whether it is a work number or cell phone number or whether you don&#8217;t want any calls including at home.</p>
<p>I should post a couple sample letters at <a href="http://newdebtcollectionlaw.info/" rel="nofollow">http://newdebtcollectionlaw.info/</a>, I&#8217;ll try to make some time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System numbers: 410-968-7953 — 651-204-1374 — 800-561-5695 —  866-903-1001 by RCM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a programmer who happens to be hassled by these morons.  I am glad to find all of these email addresses... as I can easily program a software that hammers on THESE the way they hammer on US.

Wanna shut down their email addresses ?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a programmer who happens to be hassled by these morons.  I am glad to find all of these email addresses&#8230; as I can easily program a software that hammers on THESE the way they hammer on US.</p>
<p>Wanna shut down their email addresses ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Open Letter to WaMu and the collection calls and settlement offer by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how you feel and fortunately, I DID stick it to WaMu.  I'm VERY happy to have contributed to their demise by REFUSING to pay.

I don't even know which company has the credit card accounts now.  I'm sure you heard that WaMu went out of business.

With regards to the people who work for WaMu and other corrupt organizations, many don't have a choice, they just answer phones or make collection calls.

&lt;b&gt;However, the PEOPLE who make the DECISIONS will fry in hell, if there is a hell.&lt;/b&gt;

Of course the best way to put them in their place is to quit paying the MAXED OUT account. 

Unfortunately, that will ruin your credit and might even result in a judgment.

Personally, I couldn't care less, whoever owns the credit cards now, bring it on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how you feel and fortunately, I DID stick it to WaMu.  I&#8217;m VERY happy to have contributed to their demise by REFUSING to pay.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even know which company has the credit card accounts now.  I&#8217;m sure you heard that WaMu went out of business.</p>
<p>With regards to the people who work for WaMu and other corrupt organizations, many don&#8217;t have a choice, they just answer phones or make collection calls.</p>
<p><b>However, the PEOPLE who make the DECISIONS will fry in hell, if there is a hell.</b></p>
<p>Of course the best way to put them in their place is to quit paying the MAXED OUT account. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, that will ruin your credit and might even result in a judgment.</p>
<p>Personally, I couldn&#8217;t care less, whoever owns the credit cards now, bring it on!</p>
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		<title>Comment on IC System collector Amanda PROVIDES SSN instead of requesting it for verification by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure, am not an attorney.  It's probably a little late even if you are in Arizona.

Do you have recordings or other evidence?

Collectors are LIARS, as evidenced by their initial disclosures, discovery responses and filings.

I already scanned the IC System initial disclosures, will post them shortly and you'll see what I mean. 

LIES, LIES and MORE LIES even though they HAVE the recorded calls on CD.

You need to be able to prove that you requested that they not call you or have recorded calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure, am not an attorney.  It&#8217;s probably a little late even if you are in Arizona.</p>
<p>Do you have recordings or other evidence?</p>
<p>Collectors are LIARS, as evidenced by their initial disclosures, discovery responses and filings.</p>
<p>I already scanned the IC System initial disclosures, will post them shortly and you&#8217;ll see what I mean. </p>
<p>LIES, LIES and MORE LIES even though they HAVE the recorded calls on CD.</p>
<p>You need to be able to prove that you requested that they not call you or have recorded calls.</p>
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